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myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life 3 years ago

we are all proud I am sure to be known as a mom or a wife,'but do we have to be always just referred to as Johnie's mom or George's wife?My'
own husbAnd said,tell them you are Patsie Hatley,you are yourself.you were you before you married and had children.My question I guess is do we have to lose our identity just because we are married and have children.Cannot we still keep our meness? that is if such a word exists.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. sid556 (18642)   ranked 33 out of 2,146 in life   3 years ago

I know....we are always somebodys "something. I grew up in the shadow of my very popular brother. I was always known as Dan's sister. I still get it a lot and I'm 53. My husband's name was Kim and we've been divorce now for 18 years and people still will call me Kim. I've gotten used to it. Well somewhat. I do know what you mean. My daughter's friends do call me "mama sid" and I have to say that I am ok with that. Sometimes even my daughter calls me that. It's ok. They are referring to me only. I kind of like it. happy


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

hi sid yes we are always being referred to like that and I didnt'really dislike it of course. I loved my husband very much;'and was proud of my son.It was just at the junior college where I wass getting my first years of college that I sometimes felt like I had lost part of myself.Yet I always told myself you are lucky you have a husband and a child you love.Yet a small part of me always wanted somebody to say well hi Patsie, or hi Patsie Hatley.

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2. myLot reputation of 93/100. webearn99 (1150)   ranked 386 out of 2,146 in life   3 years ago

It's as though people want to judge who we are on the basis of who we belong to. The "unique me" is lost in "what I am". Well, perhaps people are not sure which foot to start the acquaintance on. So they refer to your association to begin with. I am sure that is for the starters only. Once the ice is broken and they get to know you, they will take you, Patsie Hatley, to be what you are. Not a matter to agonize with.


myLot reputation of 98/100. neildc (8307)   ranked 337 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

i agree to that, webearn. it happens to me a lot of times, as in, "hi, meet my wife" so at first instance, people will see her, as in "hi, neil's wife" or "hi, mrs. armstrong." lol

today you are not Hatley anymore, you're Patsie to us, Patsie. blink


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

hi my fellow mylotters yes perhaps its just a matter of semantics and once someone knows me they usually do call me by name.I am glad'that mylotters would refer tome as Patsie hatley or Hatly,either one.'Its odd that a times it should have mattered that much seeing that I had a very good marriage andwas proud of my son who was going to junior college at the same time I was.

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3. enjoyworld2003 (57)   ranked 918 out of 2,146 in life   3 years ago

This society have so much relationship. we are a charactor of this society. we are alwasy be called somebodays''''' . yeah we should leave for ourself . but maybe it just their calling way . we are always ourselves


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

ni enjoyworld glad to see you here again.yes we are always'bing called someones whatever. Maybe i should really treasure those'day now that I have been widowed for years. I am hardly ever called robbies mom anymore but lately people here have told me my your
'son looks just like you. and that was sort of nice too.

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4. myLot reputation of 100/100. paula27661 (11930)   ranked 23 out of 2,146 in life   3 years ago

You are so right Hatley! I don’t know where our ‘meness’ goes once we marry and have children, although I wonder if it just a female thing; before you are married you are Jack’s daughter then you become Mark’s wife and Sally’s mother etc. Is it more of a female identity crisis, I’m sure males don’t lose who they are the minute they are born!


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

happylolsadhi paula wow no I dont think I have ever heard a guy
being called Joans busband or Bobbys father. for one'thing I dont think any red blooded man would stand still for being'designated as
someones husband or someones daddy, they would turn on th'person and tell them to call them by their names. he he eh

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5. myLot reputation of 92/100. dumblnddzzy (10631)   ranked 219 out of 2,146 in life   3 years ago

Maybe it is because i Cannothave children, BUT I would LOVE to be known as 'johnys mom' or debbies mom.. guess it all depends on what your ownsituation is.... I can see wnting to keep your 'me-ness' though... am always Lori


myLot reputation of 62/100. AngryKittyMSV (1913)   ranked 385 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

You're also "kitty's friend" and even "kitty's hero". OR to be more specific, Mare's friend and Mare's hero, as well as Marianne's friend and Marianne's hero. ?


myLot reputation of 92/100. dumblnddzzy (10631)   ranked 219 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

THAN YOU Kitty,mare, & marianne I really appreciate having you as a friend, & 'daughter' ..lori happythumbupwink


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

oh lori I am sorry of course this would be almost painful for'you. and really I was proud to be called Robbies mom. Now after being a widow for many years I am once again just Patsie Hatley but in junior'college I was never greeted by my name but by being Robbies mom or Garlands wife. it used to get to me.now here at Gold Crest I am always told your son looks so much like you I just knew he h ad to be your son when I first met him.Thats odd to because he had verydark brown hair and dark brown eyes while i am whitehaired and blue eyed.


myLot reputation of 92/100. dumblnddzzy (10631)   ranked 219 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

That is perfecly ok hatley... I'm sure u & ur son have the same facial features... i likeyour first name it fits you...Lori


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

thank you laurie i used to hate it but in the last'few
years I have grown to like it.my husband god love him
called Patty tricia as he knew I disliked patsie, andont
time a person said that tome,a perfect stranger,and I
almost fainted as my husband had been dead for a long'time.
Then he explained he was a teacher at our junior college'andhe had heard my husband call me that. It still was a little'scary
as that was a joke betweenjust us two.

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6. myLot reputation of 98/100. roniroxas (5916)   ranked 237 out of 2,146 in life   3 years ago

some people has hard time remembering name so they sometimes remember the face and remember your imidiate family then lost your name in between those, so they just refer us as the wife of or the mom of. i also meet people who just remembers my face and some remembers me as the sister of jayjay. but its okay i think i am also a person who dont remember names so much.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

hi roniroxas you just made me realize why some people'probably
called me Robbies mom, they had forgot my own first name but'knew robbie and my husband. that gives a better slant on things.'Oh I
am just horrible with remembering names. I will remember faces'and even connect the face with where I met the person but I have to go'hoh hello Mrs. uh Uh and sometimes they will say oh I m Joan remeber me from writing class and again sometimes they wont. embarrassment for sure.


myLot reputation of 98/100. roniroxas (5916)   ranked 237 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

see hatley, so its better to talk to Robbie's mom or Jack's wife or Jayjay's sister than to be recalling names that i am sure we will be feeling dumb trying to recall one. i am a singer and meets more thaan 10 people almost every after work and my goodness i can not recall all of them. the best way is to give smiles and just carry on talking. whistle rolleyes i am not really good on names. and thank you for telling me that you realize a good point in my response, that made my day. hugs for you hatley


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

hi roniroxas yes the best you can do when you just cant remember'the name is to change the subject and go on talking as usually the'
other person willbegin thinking about the new subject.I wish'I was not so bad about remembering names.

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7. myLot reputation of 94/100. sanjana_aslam (2464)   ranked 255 out of 2,146 in life   3 years ago

hatley

very tru what you said ... my mother was always reffered to as "Sanjana's mother" prior to me she was my "sisters mother" ha ha ha ... she was always someones mother never herself ..

Me now i am someones MRS ...

But thank god i am working so people in my office and my clients still call me by my name

cheers




myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

hi sanjana aslam Thats so true I was always myself when I'worked at the library save this one wonderful sweet gruff woman who called us'all by our last names.To her I was always hatley. it used to'really amuse me too as she bellowed hatley come here, how come you arent'home in bed,no dont tell me your okay,here take these,I have plenty more at home,oh you should be in bed.then she would give me a package of cough drops that had vitamin C in them. she mothered all of us,she had twelve children so she came by it naturally.

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8. myLot reputation of 100/100. cwong77 (1252)   ranked 1,214 out of 2,146 in life   3 years ago

I am also a mummy but not someone's wife.. recently, I got myself into it that I first heard of this name when my niece came to my house and she pointing at all our photo naming our child's name and with a mummy at the back.

Actually I don't mind losing my identity to the young ones.. anyway, my friends will not be identifying me that way. And I think the next group of friends that will be identifying me that way, will be those mummies that I come across if my child is being send to nursery.

I think we get those identification, when the child go home and telling their parents about our child or even us, therefore it's be easier to identify us with the child's name...


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

hi cwong yes I came to be identified with my son as He and my'hysband and i were all taking junior college classes. my son won over the heart of this one english teacher who always praised his writing ability to me, then he would say as his mom your son comes by his witing abiity from your own ability. you always get an a in my'classes which was true. I think he couldnt remember my first'name so he used robbies mom. and now I dont think it bothers me after all these years.

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9. myLot reputation of 99/100. hvedra (1207)   ranked 919 out of 2,146 in life   3 years ago

I do find that kind of weird and sad. Also sad are the women who use that description themselves "tarquin's mom" or "mom of seven" and so on. I feel like saying "Great, your uterus works! How is your brain?".

Of course, you also get the ones "catmomma" and so on, so it seems to be a women thing in general, not just those married with kids.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

hi hvedra yes its kind of sad specially if women lose themselves
in being a possession of someone. what you just said was what
used to bother me in junior college as I wanted to yell no'I am Mrs patsie Hatley, dont you see that I make excellent grades too,yes'robbies my son but look call me by myright name.

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10. myLot reputation of 96/100. sunnysmiles (637)   3 years ago

Hello happy I was always called 'xxx''s Mum or 'xxxx's wife and it used to annoy me tremendously as it seemed that I, as a person, had melted into nothingness. It's not so bad now as my kids are out of school but it got to the point where when a person said 'oh, you're xxxx's Mum' I would reply with 'Yes otherwise known as xxxx!' People often got the message and referred to me by my given name but only as I made a point of it. You are totally correct when you say we lose our meness, we never asked to lose it in the first place and once it's gone it's seem very difficult to get it back!


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48794)   ranked 27 out of 2,146 in life  3 years ago

hi sunnysmiles yes you have it in a nutshell Its okay now as I'am known here as Patsie or Patsie Hatley but when I was married I got called garlands wife so many times and I would correc them and say yes but my name is Patsie Hatley. it took a whole lifetime to get back to who I was really

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