Why is it hard for the Educated People to believe in God?

Yes for some may never realize that their God is their education or high status in the society. But how about the scientist who believe in God?

I know of scientist who believe in God but the ones I know also believe in Creation.
You really can't put a blanket statement that all educated people do not believe in God because there are too many Christian schools whose teachers are Christians. Both my wife and I have an education and we still believe in God. I can understand some scientist if they are like my scientific daughter. She has to know the reason why things are the way they are.

Hi learn2earn, I have to disagree here I don't believe that educated people think they are better than God, nor that they know everything. I know many educated people who say that the more they learn the more they realize how little they really know. Many know the Bible very well and see much good in it but can't accept a literal translation of the Bible. It isn't easy to believe in a God who acts as a human, gets angry and does things that we would condemn humans for doing, a God who will send people to hell for all eternity because they didn't get it right the first time. There is also the Quarn and other holy books whose followers are just as certain that they have the truth. Another thing is that there are more than 30,000 denominations within Christianity alone. Can you really blame someone who looks at all this objectively for not accepting one way as being right? Acts 4:13 say "they took knowledge of them that they had been with Jesus". If Christians today want to show the world that they have something different from others they have to agree on the teaching of Jesus. They will also have to show by example that they have something that others don't. Blessings.

I agree with you, not all educated people are non-believers. Those truly educated people believe in God...

I also know good doctors who are religious that puts confidence to their patients. You're also right when something bad happens, people start looking for God and that's the only time they start believing. Could it be God's way sometimes?

I have seen the long trailer of Ben Stein's DVD 'Expelled' that got a lot of criticism from non-believers. I agree that both believers and non-believers always contradict each other when it comes to looking at each others origin of belief. It's a hard discussion about science and religion when it comes to the beginning of all things because both have no proven evidences. The only evidence we could get I think, is by looking around us and asking ourselves, how and who could have started it all.

thanks jlemela. You are truly blessed with a college degree and knowing God. That is a great package in life. Maybe those people who are not satisfied with their life are those who can't accept that they cannot have everything because it could be bad for them and for others. They start to get mad in God or say he does not exist because their prayers are unanswered. Science only teach the nature of life but it does not teach how to live a life with love and forgiveness.

Lash, I'm not sure what you mean about 'rules changing every hundred years to reflect the current political needs of the organization.' The laws of God in the bible changed once, after Jesus CHrist was born. that's because He fulfilled the Old Testament laws because they no longer had to sacrifice animals for forgiveness of sin. Laws in society change everyday it seems. And people change standards for themsleves and others every minute or so. But from my knowledge, God's rules and laws as stated in the bible have not changed. I just wanted to clarify.

For instance, there were women priests until roughly 500 AD, reincarnation was part of the Christian faith until roughly 800 years AD, celibacy was not universally demanded of priests until roughly 1100 years AD, and there have been countless changes in dogma in all forms of Christianity, to say nothing of Islam and Judaism.

Lash

Higher education also teaches reasoning. If one were wise, then they would have normal reasoning and realize that the Bible "is" the Word of God, and that it will always be around. You cannot do away with the Bible, many have tried and failed. That in itself, should show you something right there.
But back to the question in the discussion, many people that are educated, do have very strong beliefs in God. Elvis Presley was one of the ones, that was not only rich and famous, he was also a Christian, with very strong beliefs.

Somehow I have considerable trouble seeing Elvis as a good role model for Christianity, and I seriously question the reasoning of anyone who could claim that. And it is exactly the fact that education does teach reasoning that many intelligent and educated people regard the Bible as at best a collection of semi-historical tales written by a mixture of homicidal maniacs and truly wise men, and at worst a deliberately manipulative collection of propaganda pieces designed to put power in the hands of a religious elite.

A belief in God, quaint as I find it, is understandable as a reflection of a spiritual nature; a belief in "Holy" scripture is a reflection of an inferior intellect.

Lash

Lash, those changes you are talking about were human. The people who followed that religion changed the rules. But I was talking about God's rules and laws in the Bibles. Rules God applies to our lives if we follow Him. Humans will always be imperfect and not live up to God's standard. And it is inevitable that we will make changes that don't make sense.
Can you tell me what you have against the word 'holy?' That word applies only to God and no human can ever live up to it. Again, referencing our imperfection. Are you saying that God could not be holy since you don't believe that that standard exists?

If you reread my first post you will see that I am not saying that educated people necessarily disbelieve the existence of God so much as they reject religious systems and "Holy" books, precisely because they are obviously human inventions and subject to all the human weaknesses as a result.

Lash

What makes the bible holy is that all of the books in the bible are written about the same God, who has the same attributes and love and forgiveness for us. Theologians claim that it is 'God breathed' and God authored it through humans. As a writer myself, I am often astounded by the things I have written and know that I could have not done it alone.

As a successful songwriter I, too, have had the experience of wondering where "that" came from - but I put it down to the subconscious and the techniques I use to access right brain when writing, not to some divine guidance. But when I write academically, I have a point to make, a thesis to prove, and I quite deliberately manipulate (but not falsify) the data to achieve that aim. Political/religious writing is the same, except that often there is deliberate fabrication or omissions in both to suit the final point.

The Bible is made up partly of myths, such as the myth of creation in Genesis which echo identical myths from much earlier religions, historical essays (and the winner writes the history books), and obvious religio/political propaganda. Although I have read the Bible four times, from when I seriously considered entering the Anglican ministry as a young man, it has been over 45 years since my last reading; otherwise I would quote chapter and verse, so to speak, and list the various books of the Bible under their respective categories.

Furthermore, the bible as we now know it is radically different from the bible of early Christianity, with numerous New Testament books which were written by the Gnostic Christians having been removed from the canon once the Catholic sect took control after the Council of Ephesus (incidentally having their Gnostic cousins destroyed by the state through execution etc.). There is much evidence that the books that remain have been heavily edited to suit the changing political and doctrinal requirements of the evolving church.

"Holy" books are only "holy"" because church powers claim them to be, and are no more the Word of God than Harry Potter is an historical text.

Lash

Being uneducated about those changes you are talking about, I can't argue a case against it. But I will continue to believe in God because of what He has done in my life and the freedom I feel when He has forgiven my sins.

Again, Steph, I point out that my opposition is not to a belief in God, but to many facets of religious organizations and to the concept that scriptures are God made. I recognise that there are many truly spiritual people in religious sects, and I respect them.

Lash

Actually, I will add to that post. You say "Being uneducated about those changes you are talking about, I can't argue a case against it." That more or less makes the point of the original post. Educated people, particularly those whose education has taken them into the areas I have gone into, cannot help but question the validity of scripture because the changes and omissions and contradictions become so clear when their knowledge is expanded by their education. It still doesn't say anything to the existence of God, which can be neither proved nor disproved, and comes down to a matter of faith.

Lash

Many scientists have now discovered, that many of the Biblical facts, are true and correct. Keeping up with the times, is something that even atheists normally do. Of course, if you were to actually read the Bible, and pray to God, then i am certain, that you would find, that He really does exist, and not just in poor folks, or educated people.

Well, I am an ex-Christian so I suppose your opinion on me actually reading the Bible and searching for god is kind of irrelevant to who I am. I have personally read the entire Bible and have been to quite a few churches/sought after God on my own time. Inevitably I have found quite the opposite. If God is real, he is disinterested in proving it.

I suppose if Christians were to read their own text they may see some flaws. If you would desire to hear some feel free to ask.

Inevitably, some things in the Bible are going to be true. I am of the impression that most stories tend to be routed in some sort of true experience. The issue is really proving the fundamentals. Sure, one could prove that Jews were around; that their were tribes of people, that David was the king...but those are all petty historical facts. It makes the story of Jesus and God more believable if there is some sort of truth in there. Unfortunately, there is no correlation between God being real based on the Jews/David being real (this is just an example). Likewise, the whole bible is not true just because some things in it are true.

science has proven many or some of the things we see today but there are still theories especially when it comes to the origin of life. science is saying the beauty and order of the solar system are all by chance but religion is teaching that there is an intelligent creator behind those. God gave men the ability to grow in knowledge but how come these knowledge cannot explain or fully prove how it all started? Maybe the simple answer would be, 'we were not there'.

yes dpauli. it could depend in our limited mind to accept God's existence so we really need His guidance. To be humble is one way to start but it could be hard for those who is satisfied with their life and their capabilities.