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myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening 11 months ago

Saturday, after buying the garden soil to go in this raised bed, I bought a few tomato plants. The price of ready grown plants has really increased. I have almost no luck with seeds. My frugal step was that I made sure each one of those pots had at least two plants, and maybe more. That way I can have all I want, and I can share with my daughter in law as well. Any more frugal gardening ideas?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. moneymommy (1797)   ranked 491 out of 1,520 in gardening   11 months ago

I have been trying my luck with seeds. I think thats a frugal as I can get with my garden. Will see if they grow, I ussually have better like with buying the tomato plants.


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

Things I can sow directly in the ground, like beans or squash or cucumbers seem to do okay. I usually buy tomato and pepper plants.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pergammano (2229)   ranked 74 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

If you find a tomato/cuke/zucchini plant you truly love..it is very easy to save the seeds...and I DO. Basically because there is so much manipulation of seeds by Monsato & Monrovia nowadays, that we are not able save them. They have manipulated the genes so that we CANNOT save them...as they are generically modified so they do not reproduce. I owned the very first Nursery on this small Island that I live on...and lived thru a lot of influence(interference) by these companies...If you wish to PM me, I can/will share this info! Cheers!

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2. myLot reputation of 97/100. babystar1 (3172)   ranked 59 out of 1,520 in gardening   11 months ago

I just bought some tomato and green pepper plants today. I did not plant them yet, probably will wait untill first part of May. When do you plant your tomato plants.


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

I may go ahead and plant them on Friday this week. Our night time temperatures look like they will definitely be warming up from then on. Before then we have a couple of nights in the forties, and I know the soil will not have had a chance to warm up.

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. katsalot1 (913)   ranked 457 out of 1,520 in gardening   11 months ago

Do you use your own compost? Having a compost heap or container for all your vegetable peelings and weeds etc. is a good way of increasing the goodness of the soil that you grow things in, so you end up getting more from the plants that you grow.


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

I have a compost bin, and have used compost periodically. I can also get it from the transfer station (dump) because they compost the yard waste and give it away free. I put all my peels and stuff in the compost, it keeps the trash from smelling so much. Banana peels I have heard make excellent fertilizer for tomatoes.

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. ElusiveButterfly (9563)   ranked 66 out of 1,520 in gardening   11 months ago

Whenever I purchase potted plants I look for the pots that have more than one plant in them. Why buy one when you can get two for the price of one? Buy good quality seeds. For the price you pay you are almost guaranteed to get results. Think of the money you'd have to shell out if you bought the vegetable fresh. That is what keeps me from whining!


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

I am so looking forward to home grown tomatoes. Hubby wants me to make my pepper jelly and sell it. He sold a jar at work this summer.

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5. myLot reputation of 98/100. JoyfulOne (4435)   ranked 84 out of 1,520 in gardening   11 months ago

Oooooo...a raised bed! I would LOVE to have that kind of spot, that is so convenient. I do something different in my gardens to conserve watering. Every year in the spring, I save my 2 liter plastic pop bottles. When it's time to plant my tomatoes, etc, I throw away the cap and cut off the bottom rounded part of the bottle. This makes like a giant funnel. When I plant the plants, I put the funnel in the hole first (leaving about an inch above ground) and then put the plants around it. When it's time to water, I aim the hose right into the funnel part until it's filled up. No more soaking the ground and letting the water run for time on end. Doing it this way lets the water get right to the roots where it's needed, and it's not laying on top to evaporate. I also add my fertilizers into the hole. We have droughts here sometimes, and the summers we had them people were always amazed at how lush my plants were despite 'no rains.' This method lets me recycle and raise really healthy plants!

Another thing I do is square foot gardening. If you're not familiar with it, a web search explains it better than I ever could lol. You can fit more plants into an area doing it this way. I've been doing it that way since the 70's, as well as using my giant funnel idea. I can't wait for it to warm up enough so I can get out there and get my garden going! I can't wait to see all the responses others will share here. Happy gardening GardenGerty :-)


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

Probably the bed I have done will qualify more as square foot gardening or intensive gardening. It is at a height that I can sit on a bench to work it, if I choose. It is up against my neighbor's new fence, but I built a cinder block wall and filled it with peat moss, soil and compost. I think I have a book on square foot gardening. I am hard pressed to find space in my yard that gets enough sun. This bed is one and a half feet wide and twenty five feet long. I like that I can work the whole thing but not walk on and compress the soil. I have tried using milk jugs, but I bet the 2 liters will work better. I have also used a catch bucket for water in the shower. I will put a soaker hose in this new bed.

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6. myLot reputation of 96/100. dragon54u (10866)   ranked 2 out of 1,520 in gardening   11 months ago

I have no tips as this is my first garden but do you know why my corn hasn't sprouted after 10-12 days?! I planted peas in peat pots and two of them are up but the bush beans and corn haven't shown my any growth! Any ideas?


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

Is the corn in pots or outdoors? If it is outdoors the ground may still be too cold, or critters may have stolen the seeds. Peas should be great just straight in the ground as they prefer cooler weather and in my neck of the woods they die around mid June if not sooner. If your corn and beans are in peat pots, make sure they are getting some warmth. You can even put them on a tray on top of the refrigerator to stimulate bottom root growth.


myLot reputation of 95/100. xParanoiax (5024)   ranked 105 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

You probably planted them a bit early, Dragon, if your pots are outside (which is the only way I can figure them possibly being stolen like Gerty suggested). You're in Ohio, like me, and typically...unless your plant is a cold-loving thing, you don't put it outside before the "last frost date" -- which is mid-May here (sucks I know, but at least Corn doesn't take a long time like most other things, which alot of us generally start indoors March-April so they're a decent size before we put them outside, like tomatoes). Sorry if I'm going on here, I'm a bit of a worry wort ^_^'

Corn is a kind of grass and actually, it adores heat. ^_^' Hopefully they'll still be okay after being in the cold...they SHOULD be, I'd think, but I'm not sure, if they have been in the cold, at all, of course.

If you did it inside, then they might be old or bad seeds, where did you buy them from? Also, I'm curious about your ideas, since I'm a bit surprised at the idea that you started them in peat, rather than putting them directly in the ground after the frost date. I'm not saying it's bad or anything, I just never heard of anyone doing it, 'cause most people're terrified of disturbing the roots and upsetting the new plants too much so that they die -- which I think may be a bit unfounded, considering they said the same thing about sunflowers, and we started those inside this year!


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

To me it seemed normal as I have another friend online in Minnesota that starts them in pots indoors. I meant if dragon put the corn in the ground the critters might have stolen it. I used to have an old egg incubator and I would put trays of plants on it to get bottom heat to get them growing. I have been trying to tell daughter in law she is rushing the season even here. Most stuff does not want to go out before the first week of May. Exceptions here would be peas, lettuce, radishes and spinach, which all like the cold.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dragon54u (10866)   ranked 2 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

xParanoiax, my idea was to start them inside and plant them as soon as the ground was warm enough. Then I'd plant more, stagger the harvest times so I'll have vegetables all summer through maybe October or so. The peat pots can be put directly in the soil when it's warm enough. I bought the seeds from Walmart, wrong move?


myLot reputation of 96/100. dragon54u (10866)   ranked 2 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

Gerty, I'm growing them inside and as soon as the soil is warm enough I'll put the pots in the ground and they'll grow as the pots dissolve. My idea was to stagger my harvests to have vegetables till late fall.

Strange about the corn, I remember it sprouting quicker for my Grandpa.


myLot reputation of 99/100. saundyl (4454)   ranked 281 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

I think i have the same friend here that starts corn indoors in minnesota!


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

Probably you do have the same friend. Dragon, that should work. We started all kinds of seeds inside for third grade science projects, and they did grow, most of them. It could be that you buried the corn too deep. Go ahead and try the bottom heat thing, I bet it will help.

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7. myLot reputation of 99/100. saundyl (4454)   ranked 281 out of 1,520 in gardening   11 months ago

HMMM tips - if you havent put dirt in already if you lay old newspapers out in layers under the dirt it weeds and grass have trouble growing THROUGH the dirt and you have to weed less.

Keep your pots to reuse for replanting next year. If you have extras of certain plants you started sometimes friends are willing to trade for extras they have. One year i had about 60 tomatoes and i only wanted 10 but they were old seeds so i wasnt sure if they would grow.

Aphids - keep em away with a spray bottle of water with dishsoap.

You can make your own peat pots with eggshells, egg cartons (paper), newspaper or tp rolls

You can start geraniums and citronella plants from cuttings. (citronella are awesome for keeping mosquitoes away.

Attaching ribbon to a stake so it blows will keep critters out of the garden (or pinwheels!)

Salt between rocks for paths keeps weeds from growing.

If its gonna freeze cover your plants with blankets, buckets, tarps, etc.


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

I like the ribbon idea and I may have to remember the toilet paper rolls for next year, or even later this year to start some other plants. If you have a problem with deer you are supposed to hand bars of Irish Spring soap. That is what a nearby nature center does with the baby trees it starts.


myLot reputation of 99/100. saundyl (4454)   ranked 281 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

OOOH that soap i can see how it would keep the deer away..i hate the smell of that soap too! Good to know maybe it keeps cows away too?


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

It might keep a lot of things away. I am not sure about cows. It might keep bugs away, though. Does anything keep cows away?


myLot reputation of 99/100. saundyl (4454)   ranked 281 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

Hmmm..selling them sends them away!


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  10 months ago

Yep, granddaddy used to send them away to be steaks.


myLot reputation of 99/100. saundyl (4454)   ranked 281 out of 1,520 in gardening  10 months ago

MMMM steak!

My dad's selling the fence jumpers this week. He brought me all the nice cows that he wants to keep...the ones that are well pets almost. I've got 15 mommas and 15 babies and 2 bulls here now.

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8. myLot reputation of 99/100. Thoroughrob (8375)   ranked 464 out of 1,520 in gardening   11 months ago

Good luck with your plants. I love the fresh veggies, too bad they only can be grown here for a short time.


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

That is when you have to pick things that have short maturities. Like I got mostly Early Girl tomatoes, as they are supposed to be ready in fifty days. I will put epsom salts in the soil for them, too.

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9. myLot reputation of 99/100. catdla1 (3027)   ranked 267 out of 1,520 in gardening   11 months ago

Whenever I buy scallions, leeks or other green onions, I always plant the little bit of root at the bottom, that would normally get thrown out. Now I never have to buy them. Surprisingly they even stayed green all winter.


Leeks

myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

I will have to try that myself. Thanks

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10. myLot reputation of 95/100. xParanoiax (5024)   ranked 105 out of 1,520 in gardening   11 months ago

Well, this year, we're doing alot of things the old fashioned way -- we've always done it the old fashioned way, for the most part, but this year we've got to do alot without machines...like a good amount of things we can't afford a tiller for, we've gotta dig it buy hand. Also, our soil is not the best and highly clay-y...which means we have to bust our butts with as much compost as possible, and we've been scavenging for materials (especially stuffs like manure) this year.

We'll be saving the seeds of all our stuffs, all through the year as our plants give us food. Of the stuff we like, we'll keep it, and of the stuff we don't we'll sell the seeds to those who want them...and use the money from that to try something new next year.

This year, ALL our seeds in the starter boxes came up (minus some flowers, but they were old seeds anyways), so we've actually had a little too good of luck. Although we're technically a farm with a little over an acre -- we're gonna have a tough time taking care of ALL of them, so we've been giving away some, trading some for other stuffs we need, and selling as many as we can. It's only been a small chunk, but it makes me feel better -- especially knowing that the people who recieve our extras won't have to spend insane money and feel strained at their need of them this year because of us (we did fifty sents a potted plant, this year, which seemed reasonable as we only paid a dollar a packet ourselves). We've made a little over twenty bucks so far, and as I said this is only a little chunk, you can see my own desperation to share the luck around ^_^'

I'm not complaining, mind, I'd rather have intense luck than no luck at all. We've junebugs infesting our soil, and that might be our dose of bad luck this year. To get rid of them, as we're digging, I'm gonna have to make my own mixture to kill them. I was gonna make hot sauce/garlicy water and pour it through the dug up earth. I just hope my efforts work.

We've been cutting up milk jugs to make lables for our plants, and using plastic spoons and stuffs for lables, and cutting up water bottles and poking holes through yogurt containers and folding up newspaper to make pots -- as we've been in desperate need of them.

It's been interesting, these past few months, the last bit of this spring and into the summer and fall shall be even more fun, I reckon. Good luck with your tomatoes, Gerty!


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

I had a neighbor that did not like vegetables, but thought that raising grass was a waste of time. He grew vegetables and sold them inexpensively, and collected all the geraniums he could in the fall and sold plants from the cuttings the next spring. In one of the responses someone talked about using toilet paper rolls for seed starting, and I think that would be a great alternative to peat pots and they decompose.I get plenty of those.


myLot reputation of 95/100. xParanoiax (5024)   ranked 105 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

That's a brilliant idea! If we didn't give the cardboard toilet paper rolls to our rabbit for chewing I think we'd do that.


myLot reputation of 98/100. GardenGerty (22355)   ranked 1 out of 1,520 in gardening  11 months ago

When I had a rabbit I gave him maple tree twigs.

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